〔翻譯文〕如果林能夠完結比賽,我能接受他做為第六人

海說__智慧林部落格Lintelligence 出的一篇關於林替補出發的分析感想文,和上一篇Chris的憤怒相反,這個作者提出很多不同的想法,雖然比較是從隊伍的角度出發,但希望大家可以平心靜氣地看一看,比較一下各種可能。畢竟,無論如何,我們最在乎的是林能打他想打的籃球,至於用甚麼方法達成…………

 

I’m Okay with Lin Being 6th Man IF He Finishes Games

 

So, there’s been a lot of talk about Lin not starting in the game against the Pacers in Manila. I actually wasn’t too surprised, as I expected McHale to experiment with Lin and Beverley in the preseason. As for whether or not this had anything to do with the whole McFale/Lin dynamics I’ve discussed in the past, the jury is still out on that. I’m sure there’s some of it, because McHale has said in the past that you want your starters to be the BEST five players on the team. So, him even considering not starting Lin does tell me that he doesn’t consider Lin being clearly one of the five best players on the team. But setting the McFale/Lin dynamics all aside, I can understand the decision to use Lin as a sixth man ala Ginobili.

林沒有在對抗溜馬的馬尼拉一戰中先發,引起了不少言論。我倒是沒有太驚訝,我已經預期麥克海爾會在熱身賽期間,對林和貝佛利做一些試驗。不管這是或不是─我已經在過去討論的─那一套麥克廢爾/林之間的動力消長,”陪審團”(意即最終定案的人)仍然在關注著。我確定有某些部分是,因為麥克海爾說過你會希望你的先發是隊中最佳的五人。所以,他考慮不先發林確實說明了,他不認為林是明確的隊中最佳五人之一。但把麥克廢爾/林的動力消長擺一旁,我可以理解把林放在第六人的決定,就像當初 ala Ginobili。

 

Here’s my reasoning for it. Lin makes ANY four guys on the floor better, because he’s the consummate floor general. He just knows how to play the game the way it’s supposed to be played. What was so captivating about Linsanity in New York is it brought back the fun in basketball. After endless Melo iso’s, the ball finally moved around and a bunch of no-names, such as Steve Novak, suddenly played like stars. And MOST importantly Linsanity won games. This is what Lin does. He makes his teammates better and helps teams win games.

這是我的原因。林可以讓”任何”場上的四個人變得更好,因為他是精湛的場上將軍。他就是知道怎樣用理應如此打藍球的方式打籃球。紐約林來瘋為何如此令人迷醉,就是他把樂趣重新帶回籃球裡。在永無盡頭的甜瓜單打之後,球終於開始動了,然後一群無名的、像是steve novak,突然間打得像明星。而”最重要”的是林來瘋能贏下比賽。這就是林能做的事。他讓他的隊友更好,然後幫助球隊贏球。

 

There’s no doubt Parsons, Howard, and Harden (PHH) are better with Lin on the floor. The second unit is also better with Lin in the floor. Like I said, Lin makes ANY four guys on the floor better. So, as a coach, trying to figure out what is best for the team, I think an argument can be made for bringing Lin off the bench to help bring cohesion to the second unit. In other words, the second unit needs Lin a lot more than the starters need Lin, because Beverley can’t run the offense. The bench needs someone to run the show a lot more than PHH do. I’m not saying that PHH doesn’t need someone who can run the offense. I’m just saying that they don’t need it as much as the second unit. And, there is only one Jeremy Lin. I didn’t see the first quarter of the game, so I’m not sure how Howard faired without Lin. That would be the main concern with using Lin as a sixth man, since Howard is now a big focus for the Rockets. And that all depends on how well Harden can work with Howard.

沒有懷疑當帕森斯、霍華德、哈登(帕霍哈)有林在場上時變得更好,但第二陣容(替補)有了林在場上也變得更好。就像我說的,林可以讓”任何”四個場上球員更好。所以,作為一個教練,試著去找出對球隊而言最佳的組合,我認為,把林放在替補、帶給第二陣容凝聚力,這是可以拿來討論的。換一種說法,第二陣容比先發退伍還更需要林,因為貝佛利不能帶領進攻。替補比起帕霍哈還更加需要有人來組織。我不是說帕霍哈不需要有人來組織進攻,我只是在說,他們的需要沒有替補的需要來的多。然而,這裡只有一個林書豪。我沒有看第一節的比賽(在馬尼拉對抗溜馬一戰),所以我不確定霍華德沒有林是否順利,如果把林用作第六人,這一點就會是主要的憂慮,尤其在霍華德是現在火箭的一大焦點。這全都要看哈登和霍華德配合得如何了。

 

Against the lowly Pelicans, the Rockets second unit looked discordant on both ends of the court, but against a great Pacers team, the second unit looked like stars for the Rockets, all because Lin was running the show. There was a lot of cohesion and guys like D-Mo looked great. There’s a lot of talk about Beverley’s defense. And there’s no denying the amount of effort that Beverley puts forth on the defensive end. But what is often overlooked is that Lin is also a great defender. What separates Lin from Beverley, on the defensive end, is that Lin is an all-around great defender, while Beverley is just great at harassing his man. Lin is good at harassing his man, but he also understands spacing and has excellent instincts on the defensive end. This is how Lin gets so many steals. He’s able to anticipate where the ball is going and he knows when to lay off his man and focus on helping out on another man. Of course, sometimes he gets caught and looses his man. But this is just the risk you take if you are trying to help out on defense. All this is to say that too much is made of needing Beverley’s defense to start the game. I think that’s total bogus. The ONLY reason why you wouldn’t start Lin is not because of Beverley’s harassing defense (i.e., Beverley’s main strength), it is because of Beverley’s main deficiencies (i.e., running the offense). Like I’ve said in the past, Beverley and Toney Douglas are like twin brothers to me, but Beverley is just a better Toney Douglas. I never saw Toney Douglas as a Point Guard. He’s just an under-sized Shooting Guard and that’s EXACTLY what Beverley is. So when he’s the only guy running the offense, then you’re in trouble. This is why it makes sense to use Lin as a sixth man. Again, the main concern is how Howard does without Lin. Only time will tell.

對抗弱旅鵜鶘,火箭的替補在攻防兩端看上去都很不協調,但是在對上偉大的溜馬隊,替補隊伍看起來像是火箭的明星,這全是因為林在主導一切。那一戰看到很多的團結、一些人像小蒙看上去都很厲害。有很多關於貝佛利防守的討論,並不否認貝佛利投入防守端的努力量,但常被忽略的是,林也是個偉大的防守者。在防守端,讓林和貝佛利分別開來的是,林是個全方位的偉大防守者,而貝佛利只善於攪擾他看守的對象。林擅長攪擾他對上的人,但他也理解空間關係、並在防禦端有著極佳的直覺。這是為什麼林可以拿下這麼多抄截。他能夠參與球的走向,他知道甚麼時候可以遠離對位人物、專注在隊友的協防。當然,有時候他被抓到,然後失了他的對位球員。但這就是如果你要試著幫助到防守端,必須要承擔的風險。這一切只是想表達,關於用貝佛利的防守開啟比賽的需要,被渲染得太跨張了,我認為這全都是騙人的。你不先發林的”唯一”原因,並不是因為貝佛利很會攪亂人的防守(即,貝佛利的最強項),而是因為貝佛利的主要缺乏(即,組織進攻)。就像我過去所說的,對我來說貝佛利和道格拉斯就像雙胞胎一樣,但貝佛利僅是個更好的道格拉斯。我從不認為道格拉斯是個控球後衛,他只是個小型的得分衛,而貝佛利完全是一樣的。所以如果他是唯一一個在組織進攻的人,那你就有麻煩了。這就是為什麼用林當作第六人是合理的。再說一次,主要要擔憂的是,霍華德在沒有林的狀況下打得如何,只有時間能說明一切。

 

Lin may also be able to up his scoring average playing as a sixth man. And Lin does look even more aggressive playing with the second unit, because he no longer has to defer to Harden. So it could be a very good thing for Lin to be the sixth man in the same way that Ginobili is the sixth man for the Spurs and in the same way that Harden was for the Thunder. What this means is that Lin needs to finish nearly all if not all of the games this season.

林做第六人也可以提高他的平均得分。而且林當第六人和第二隊伍一起打的時候,確實看起來更具侵略性,因為他不用再聽從哈登。所以做第六人對林來說可能是個非常好的事,如同Ginobili是馬刺的第六人,如同哈登是雷霆的第六人。 這意味著,本賽季,林需要完結若非全部、就是幾乎全部的比賽了。

 

There’s no doubt in my mind that this season is Linsanity 2.0. Lin looks really good. And if you don’t see this, then you’re still blinded by your preconceptions of Lin. He was able to work on his game injury-free in the off season and he looks ready to play. If Lin wasn’t the third or fourth option on a team, Lin would be averaging All-Star numbers. I know many will scoff at this as being Lin fanaticism. But if Lin manages to average 14.5+ scoring this season and 5.5+ assists as a third or fourth option with a low usage rate, then those are All-Star numbers, because he would be averaging 20+ and 8+ assists if he was on any other team that didn’t have two superstars (one of whom needs the ball in his hands, just as much as Lin).

我完全不懷疑這個賽季會是林來瘋2.0。林看起來真的很好。而如果你還沒看到,那你就是仍然被你對林的成見而蒙蔽了。這個休賽期,他可以在無傷的情況下磨練他的籃球技能,而且他看起來已經準備好應戰了。如果林不是隊上的第三或第四選項,林會能夠場均全明星級的數字。我知道很多人會對此斥之以鼻,好像我是林的狂熱信徒。但假如林在本季,可以以第三、或第四選項的低使用率中拿到平均得分14.5以上、助攻5.5個以上的數據,那這就是全明星級數據,因為假如他在別的隊伍裡,沒有兩個超級明星(其中一個像林一樣需要把球握在手裡),他就能夠均分20以上以及8助攻以上。

 

Anyway, that’s a whole other discussion. The most important part about Lin being sixth man isthat he needs to finish nearly all if not all of the games this season. And this is where the whole McFale/Lin dynamics comes into play. If McHale uses Lin as a sixth man and lets Lin finish nearly all if not all of the games this season, then using Lin as a sixth man is not influenced by the whole McFale/Lin dynamics. If Lin doesn’t finish games, then this is ALL about the McFale/Lin dynamics. I don’t care how McHale wants to spin it in press conferences, saying that he needs Beverley’s defense at the end of games. The truth is, Lin every bit as good of a defender, because Lin is an excellent all around defender, whereas Beverley is an elite on-ball defender. So there’s no reason to not let Lin finish games, unless you have your blinders on and fool yourself into thinking that Lin is not a good defender because there’s no way some Asian from Harvard can keep up with NBA players.

無論如何,那是別的主題了。林若做為第六人最重要的部分是,他會要完結全部或幾乎全部的本季賽事。而這就是全部麥克廢爾/林動力消長的登台演出了。如果麥克海爾把林用做第六人,而且讓他完結全部或幾乎全部的本季賽事,那麼麥克廢爾/林動力消長就沒有影響到林做為第六人。如果林沒有完結比賽,那麼所有的一切就都是關於麥克廢爾/林的動力消長,我不在乎麥克海爾想要怎樣在媒體前編故事,說他在比賽結束之際需要貝佛利的防禦。事實是,林的每一點都是好的防守者,因為林是優秀的全方面防守者,而貝佛利是頂尖的對球防守者。所以沒有理由不讓林完結比賽,除非你戴上眼罩、欺騙你自己去認為林不是好的防守者,因為一個從哈佛來的亞洲人不可能跟上NBA的球員。

 

I think McHale and the coaching staff is honestly still trying to figure out whether or not they want to start Lin or Beverley. So I don’t think they’ve made up their minds. And I don’t blame them, because it really is a difficult decision. The Pacers game in Manila does give a lot of credibility to using Lin as a sixth man to run the show with the second unit. I think it does make the Rockets more dangerous as a team. Rockets are going to have the deepest bench in the NBA and I think they’ll have a top offense and a top defense. This Rockets team looks so scary, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they end up winning the whole thing. No one expects them to, but I just don’t see how any team is going to stop this Rockets team, as long as there are no major injuries. But this is a whole other discussion.

我認為麥克海爾和教練團如實地仍在試圖找出,他們想要先發林還是貝佛利,所以我不認為他們已經做了決定。而我不怪他們,因為這是非常艱難的決定。馬尼拉對上溜馬一戰,確實給了林去做第六人帶領替補的可信性。我認為這的確讓火箭變成更危險的隊伍。火箭即將擁有全NBA最深的板凳,而且我認為它們會有頂級的進攻與頂級的防守。這樣的火箭隊看起來非常可怕,如果他們最終贏下了整個賽事,我不會驚訝。沒有人預期他們能夠,但我看不出哪一個隊伍能夠阻止這樣的火箭隊,只要沒有受到大傷。但這又是另一個可以說的了。

 

Apparently, McHale will be alternating their starting positions throughout the pre-season, so Lin will start in Taiwan. I don’t mind this experimentation and I think it’s smart for McHale to use the pre-season to test out different lineups. That’s one big part of what the season is like and when you have a deep team like the Rockets do, that becomes even more critical. I just hope that once he figures it out, he sticks with the same starters for nearly all if not all of the regular season games. I don’t think it’s good to keep switching lineups at whim. At least this is my initial bias. That being said, I do expect McHale to continue to play with the starting lineup during the regular season. Who knows, it may be good strategically to keep starting lineups fluid. I just think it might have an adverse effect on team chemistry. But I’m sort of open to it. At the end of the day, all I care about is that Lin finishes the games and plays 30+ minutes a game. If McHale allows him AT LEAST that, then Lin will take it from there. Thank you very much.

明顯地,貫穿整個熱身賽,麥克海爾會持續變更他們的先發位置,所以林會在台灣先發。我不在意這個實驗,且我認為麥克海爾利用熱身賽去測試不同的陣容是聰明的。這是接下來賽季會看起來如何的其中一大部分,而當你有一個像火箭這樣有深度的隊伍,這就變得更關鍵。我只希望一旦他想通了,在全部或幾乎全部的例行賽裡,他得堅持用同樣的先發球員。我不認為隨心所欲地改變陣容是好的。至少這是我內化的偏見。雖這麼說,但我確實預期麥克海爾會在例行賽持續地變動陣容,誰知道呢,或許讓陣容保持流動策略上是好的,我只是認為可能對團隊化學效益有不利的影響,但是我現在對此沒這麼計較了。到了最後,我唯一在乎的就是林可以完結比賽、以及每場打30分鐘以上,如果麥克海爾”至少”同意了林這些,那林就從那出發吧。非常感謝。

17 Comments

  1. 青心烏龍 13 10 月, 2013 7:12 上午 

    馬刺的吉諾比利無疑是個很好的例子,
    他不在馬刺的先發名單,卻能被人稱為馬刺三巨頭GDP之一,很顯然他並不因為以替補身份出場就被人認為是馬刺的二軍

    原因在於馬刺的比賽裡吉諾比利經常是第四節上場之後會與鄧肯,帕克一起打到比賽終結.有時進入延長賽也會繼續上場.甚至有些時候暫時回來的關鍵球也會交給他處理,上季與熱火的總決賽便有過一場是由吉諾比利投進致勝三分球的場景

    基於以上種種馬刺教練的安排, 所有人都相信吉諾比利雖不是先發,但他絕對是教練心目中的一員大將,有著不可或缺的重要地位

    我們可以檢視一下過去一年來的比賽,問問火箭他們能給予書豪同樣的地位與信任嗎?

  2. k8cute 13 10 月, 2013 9:27 上午 

    感謝海的分享~
    由於上一篇【全球性的笑話】的分享找出一個對比的看法是件很棒的事情。
    這樣可以多看看不同的觀點。

    像我在寫文前不會只挑對林書豪有利的文章來看,因為我想多了解別人的看法,這樣或許在寫文時可以保持比較中立的立場。在判斷上或許會比較準確些。

    重點是想要了解不同觀點的看法後,知道怎麼回應部份球迷,給予比較正確的觀點。

  3. abdiel 13 10 月, 2013 10:45 上午 

    我覺得太多人只看現在,只看目前及這個球季…
    他們不像上一篇「全球性笑話」那篇提到了兩年後續約的問題,這也是我一直強調的–「火箭對林的態度,不像是打算兩年後續約林的球隊」
    既然火箭已排除林在隊上的未來,試問火箭又怎麼會繼續將林當成一員像鬼切那樣的大將呢?
    我的想法是,火箭只是在林剩餘的在隊時間裡,盡量利用林的價值與能力而已,當一切對了時,林,或者加上Asik都會離開,換得穩穩簽下cp的空間與或許簽下一個更佳的pf。
    這也許就是火箭隱藏在背後真正的策略。
    當然,除非林真能打出全明星的身手,也許又另當別論…
    但,一個不受球隊信賴的人有這機會嗎?

  4. Wei 13 10 月, 2013 9:02 下午 

    不管林是先發或是第六人,只要他接受了,我也接受!我以看他打球為樂!決定徹底忽視賣孩兒!這樣我才能繼續快樂看林打球!(今天球場上為賣孩兒歡呼的聲真的很小)

    • 挺林 14 10 月, 2013 1:33 下午 

      林有說,台北場他打的很快樂,一切都是他想要的…
      林要快樂打球,我們也要快樂的看球,
      很佩服您能夠有這樣的決定(徹底忽視冰箱),其實不這麼決定說真的也沒法度..XD
      您有改變到我的一點點想法…繼續最高境界,向林看齊,快樂看林打球

  5. Itsallin 14 10 月, 2013 5:16 上午 

    老實說帶替補不是不好,在球場上哈登掌握絕大多數的時間球在手上,就算林是替補了,球還是在哈登手上,因為哈登說新賽季他想想打場均40分鐘,林拿八分鐘的控球嗎?因為替補沒人能組織?所以需要林來組織進攻?!對我來說真的是一個藉口,就說教練說要在控衛跟大前鋒季前互相輪替,菲律賓跟台灣賽的大前鋒都是tjones,拿自己的話打自己的嘴,不覺得莫名好笑嗎?教練能讓林完成比賽?我真的不那麼想,我對mchale的偏見就像mchale對林的偏見一樣

    • 挺林 14 10 月, 2013 1:27 下午 

      我跟您想法一樣,我對冰箱的偏見不會因為一場台北賽就沒事了,
      下場球賽,冰箱已說好就是小貝先發,那就看看其它位置有無變動,還是針對控球後衛這位置在調度..

  6. Hank 14 10 月, 2013 11:01 上午 

    這篇文章說太好了, 完全符合我的心聲。
    從第六人出發沒有不好,只是決勝時,要留在場上。
    我不擔心明年林是否留在火箭,因為一個好的球員去哪都一樣,大家都會搶著要。

    • k8cute 15 10 月, 2013 8:50 下午 

      Hank~
      你說的很好「不擔心明年林是否留在火箭,因為一個好的球員去哪都一樣,大家都會搶著要。」

      不過,對於上一季決勝期都把林書豪冰在板凳上,我個人並不那麼看好,林書豪還能在那時刻留著。

  7. 周美華 15 10 月, 2013 8:06 下午 

    我好像有點被這位作者說服了。仔細想想好像有點道理。
    如果書豪成為後補上場,時間可在30分鐘,不跟哈登同在球場上,球權就會落在書豪手上,書豪就有更多的發揮空間。
    我不願意看到書豪的假性先發,時間被縮短,我相信冰箱會這麼安排,所以,當先發一點意義都沒有。

    • k8cute 15 10 月, 2013 8:52 下午 

      美華~
      很感謝海,提供了不同的觀點~~

      先發或第六人都各有優缺點,不過一個教練如果存了私心,林書豪可能就不是第六人,而是,替補了,我其實最怕這點。

      慢慢邊緣化後,交易或談價格上就吃虧了。

  8. 周美華 15 10 月, 2013 9:35 下午 

    k8cute,
    我不懂,書豪還有一年(照理說還有兩年),冰箱若把書豪擺在替補,壓縮他、邊緣他後,你說交易或談價格上就吃虧了。
    火箭他們用毒藥合約簽到書豪,按理說吃虧的應該是火箭而不是書豪吧!?

    • Claire 16 10 月, 2013 3:32 上午 

      我想k8cute指的是這合約跑完後林的未來
      如果林被邊緣化自然能力無從展現 數據也不會好
      那麼火箭之後呢?還有願意重視他的球隊出現嗎?能有好身價嗎?

      這次ESPN的球員排名 林竟然掉出了百名外
      火箭上季對他不正確的使用真的很傷

      • k8cute 16 10 月, 2013 11:01 上午 

        美華
        不好意思,打的太簡化了~
        Claire懂我的意思,我的意思就是這樣~
        其實我的點不在於是不是第六人~而是在於教練的私心。

        Claire說的就是我想講的。

  9. 周美華 16 10 月, 2013 12:38 下午 

    謝謝 Claire 和 k8cute 你們的說明,這下我懂了。
    我的觀察力和思考實在太膚淺了,職籃內部的操盤、運作真是一大學問!

    • 匿名訪客 16 10 月, 2013 3:55 下午 

      美華

      你客氣了
      球迷一起討論很有趣呢

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